Winter Tyres

[Chris S]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motoringvideo/9706105/Choosing-the-right-tyres-for-winter.html

[Housey]

isn’t this obvious?

perhaps its a bit more natural for us from the north.

I’m running Nokia Hakka 5 studded tires (they are getting old, 5 years old actually, but still works)

[Cokkeli]

I would try to find nokia hakka RSi non studded m+s winter tyres. I had these in my last car, and i found them to being very good. Car had factory assembled pirelli p zero rosso’s as summer tyres.

[Chris S]

Studded tyres are illegal on the roads over here in the Netherlands, & in the UK as well.

[Cokkeli]

I have Nokia Hakkapeliitta R non studded m+s winter tyres now under my variant. This is last winter for them becouse theres only 3mm of thread wear left. I think il be trying new hakkapeliitta r next.

Studs should be illegal here in Finland also, in my opinion.

[alexisblades]

Because of damage to the roads? I have never tried the studless tyres, only studded. Mine were remoulds, already worn out after three winters. I’ll be buying new winter tyres for next year but surely studded gives the best grip?

[Cokkeli]

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Originally posted by alexisblades

Because of damage to the roads?

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Yes roads are in bad shape after winter and those studds have that annoying habit to fly to your windscreen and crack it… if driving too close to another cars tail.

Studs on ice surely give better grip but studless work also, you got to drive slower.

[Housey]

the problem we are facing (atleast here in norway) is that too many drivers choose studless tires. thats good and all. since they don’t damage the roads so much and they don’t make as much dust..

however. the problem is, that since more and more are using them, the roads becomes extremly slippy. the studded tires dig into the hard snow/ice and make it less slipperey..

but that isn’t happening anymore

[Cokkeli]

There has been somekind of research about that grip effect for studless tyres.

[Housey]

thats all nice, but what was the result?

[Cokkeli]

Results were just as mentioned above. No grip for studless if every one would use them becouse of polishing effect. Road asphalt has to be renew anyway becouse friction factor gets too low even in dry conditions.

Tyres for use in North Europe may not be good for use in South/ Central Europe and vice versa.

[Housey]

true.. the northern tires are softer then the hard southern ones

and some dumb asswipes here in norway has decided to cut the numbers of legal studs in the studded tires with about 30 percent..

and the folks who wants to do this, live in oslo. which has a half decent public transport system.. and they have probably never even driven a car before

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