Driveshafts for Haldex conversion.

[Vegard]

For wide front, subframe from VR6, Gti and Tdi from Golf mk3, and 02M 4Motion gearbox, the driveshaft length is 327 mm. and 423 mm.

Measurements are taken from flange to flange on the inner side of the CV-joints.

For stock Mk2 subframe the driveshafts are 7 mm shorter.

Wilco at DutchBuild shorten hollow shafts for € 170 a pair.

[Vegard]

Front left driveshaft for Mk2 subframe and 02M 4Motion gearbox there is a stock shaft that may be used together with a 5×100 hub to fit the 4Motion outer CV joint.

The part# is 6Q0 407 271J. You find it on Skoda Fabia, VW Polo and Seat Ibiza IV, 2002 and later models with TDI engines. It’s 02M-trannies on theese cars.

New shaft for 178€ here: http://www.100pro-ersatzteile.de/shop/productdetail.jsp?code=133_16951&affiliation=autoteile_katalog

Different part numbers for this shaft:

SEAT 6Q0 407 271 J
SKODA 6Q0 407 451 FX
VW 6Q0 407 271 BE
VW 6Q0 407 271 BS
VW 6Q0 407 271 DB
VW 6Q0 407 271 DC
VW 6Q0 407 451 HX
VW 6Q0 407 271 DE

SEAT * CORDOBA (6L2)
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.4 TDI 10.02 – 55 75 1422 AMF
1.4 TDI 06.05 – 59 80 1422 BMS, BNV
1.9 TDI 09.02 – 74 100 1896 ATD
SEAT * IBIZA IV (6L1)
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.8 T FR 12.03 – 110 150 1781 BJX, BKV
1.8 T Cupra R 01.04 – 132 180 1781 BBU
1.4 TDI 05.02 – 55 75 1422 AMF
1.9 TDI 02.02 – 74 100 1896 ATD
SKODA * FABIA (6Y2)
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.4 TDI 04.03 – 55 75 1422 AMF
1.4 TDI 10.05 – 59 80 1422 BNV
1.9 TDI 01.00 – 74 100 1896 ATD
SKODA * FABIA Stufenheck (6Y3)
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.4 TDI 04.03 – 55 75 1422 AMF
1.4 TDI 10.05 – 59 80 1422 BNV
SKODA * FABIA Combi (6Y5)
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.4 TDI 04.03 – 55 75 1422 AMF
1.4 TDI 10.05 – 59 80 1422 BNV
1.9 TDI 04.00 – 74 100 1896 ATD
VW * POLO (9N_)
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.4 TDI 10.01 – 55 75 1422 AMF, BAY
1.4 TDI 04.05 – 59 80 1422 BMS, BNV
1.9 TDI 10.01 – 74 101 1896 ATD, AXR
VW * POLO Stufenheck
Fahrzeugtyp Baujahrvon-bis kW PS Hubraum Motorcode
1.4 TDI 07.03 – 55 75

[Vegard]

Rear driveshafts for wide track, VR6 Syncro rear trailing arms, are stock Mk2 Syncro, Rallye or G60 Syncro shafts.

4Motion rear inner CV-joint will not accept G60 Syncro rear driveshaft. The splines on the driveshafts are too short. The CV-joints are 28.3 mm. thru the spline hole, the spline on the driveshafts are 31 mm. total, minus 5 mm. in to the locking spring and minus 2.5 mm. for the washer on the inner side. That makes 23.5 mm. all together, missing approx 5 mm. to fit.

To modify the inner spline to fit 100 mm CV joints. it has to be removed material for approx 5 mm. to slip un the 100 mm CV joint from the 4Motion diff.

For stock width the stock rear shafts have to be shortened a bit, like this:

Wilco at DutchBuild do the job if your’e not able to fix it yourself.

[Vegard]

I have this information from the Vortex forum:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2475258&postid=29390192#29390192

On left rear, the right front shaft from Passat G60 Syncro can be used.

I guess this is on a stock width car, and I have not meassured it to control the information. The good thing is that it fits the 100 mm inner CV joint without modification.

Can anyone confirm this?

[Vegard]

I have now meassured the Passat G60 Syncro front right driveshaft, it’s 448 mm between the flanges on the inner side of the splines.

The rear left shaft from Golf G60 Syncro is 475 mm minus the 5 mm that has to be removed to fit the 100 mm inner CV-joint. Then it’s 470 mm between the flanges on the inner side of the splines.

For me it looks like the Passat driveshaft is too short, at least for the VR6 modded rear end. Maybe it will do the job for a stock track width car.

[R32 dsg rallye]

Hi, i could do with a bit of help with this subject.

I’m building a TT 3.2VR dsg rallye, been going on for quite a while now but she’s getting there. I am using haldex and have converted my rallye beam to accept it.

I have now come to the drive shafts. I have stripped down the TT 3.2 rears and the rallye rears. When i compare the two the outer cv ends (wheel side) are identical, so i cant understand why they are cut down to leave the 2.5mm end or why you would need to run them without the spring or thrust washers? Is it so that when you run without the washers the drive shaft can travel further into the cv without hitting anything inside? Thus giving more room for the other cv to travel?

The inner cv end (haldex side) is slightly different but if i leave off the splined spring washer as i have heard somebody on vortex do it fits. Is that what the bit of machining is for so that you can retain the spring washer?

Many thanks for any help

Patrick

[Vegard]

The outer CV’s have different splines for the hub. If you want to go with 4Motion outer CV’s you’ll have to change the hub for the front VR6 item.

The reason why you have to cut the shaft ends is because the Haldex diff is wider. If you don’t cut the shaft will be too long and the shaft will brake the CV’s.

Cutting the inner side of the shaft to make room for the CV joint is needed due to the thicker 100 mm inner CV. The 90 mm Rallye CV is approx 5 mm thinner then the 100 mm CV.

[jofg60]

so lengths of front shafts on rallye will be 320mm and 416mm

if wanting to keep 4 stud……. whats the best way of mating a tt joint to a rallye outer?

or would the best option be to fit vr6 front hubs redrilled to 4×100, so 2 different shafts dont have to be jointed together.
i.e tt shaft shortened like above.

[h714dhg]

anyone got an answer for the above question?

[h714dhg]

Forgive me for being dumb here, im sure the answer is here somewhere, but i cant find it.

Rear driveshafts are sorted

Front shafts???
I have both TT/S3 hollow shafts. I am running 4×100 stock width. What length do the shafts need to be? I assume its overall length minus cv joints? What Outer CV joint can i use that will fit onto the TT/S3 driveshafts? Or do i need to cut and shut mk2 outer joints onto the TT/S3 shafts?

Please help – want this damn project done now!

[h714dhg]

Is this forum still active??

[jofg60]

so for total length its 320mm + 36mm (splined bit for inner cv) + 48mm (splined bit for outer cv) total = 404mm

so for total length its 416mm + 36mm (splined bit for inner cv) + 48mm (splined bit for outer cv) total = 500mm

[Rellacott14]

Hi. Im having a pair of rear drive shafts made.
Can you tell me the length of the rear shafts without the cv joints?

Thanks

[jofg60]

404mm long, 390mm circlip to circlip
544mm long, 530mm circlip to circlip

[Rellacott14]

Is there any chance you could help with this driveshaft form?

http://www.sqsracing.com/files/fs_files/contentpages/21/drive-shafts-custom_118.pdf

Im using the haldex conversion kit with vr6 trailing arms I know the g60 shaft’s needs to be shorter but im unsure and need an accurate specification.

Thanks in advance

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