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April 5, 2016 at 2:18 pm #1570
Ssaunders
ParticipantHi all, I’m having issues and could do with some advice and help.
Basically I have a Corrado VR6 turbo that has been converted to a syncro it has a quaife 6 speed kit. I was giving it some beans and lost all drive and it sounded like a bag of nails but I could still select gears, I’m waiting for the box to be pulled and looked at. My first guess is the diff is fubar? If it is I was looking at sticking a quaife lsd in.
If it’s the diff what’s the chance the ring gear is still useable? If not where can I get a ring gear as I believe the VR is different to the 4 cylinder?
Having a quick look I can’t see any holes in the box but who knows, where can I get an empty box from? And what sort of money?
If it makes any difference it’s running 4 stud hubs not VR 5 stud. I’m sorry to ask so many questions as I didn’t do the conversion and am in the dark till my mechanic can pull the box, so I have no codes or anything.
Thanks for looking and any help you can provide.
Cheers
SteveApril 5, 2016 at 4:49 pm #9976Housey
Participantsame ringgear as FWD.
April 5, 2016 at 5:55 pm #10144Ssaunders
ParticipantHi, thanks for the reply so I can use a 02A VR6 diff ring gear?
Cheers
SteveApril 6, 2016 at 2:54 pm #10145Housey
Participantcan’t find any different partnumbers in etka
April 6, 2016 at 3:08 pm #10146Ssaunders
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Houseycan’t find any different partnumbers in etka
thanks for looking.
cheers
steveApril 6, 2016 at 10:17 pm #10345Chris S
ModeratorIt is more than likely to be the bevel gears in your transfer box that have shed at least a few teeth. [
]April 6, 2016 at 11:08 pm #10379Ssaunders
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Chris SIt is more than likely to be the bevel gears in your transfer box that have shed at least a few teeth. [
]Ok, thanks Chris. Sounds cheaper than a new diff? Would I not still have front drive though? What sort of money for a trans box and is there anyway to strengthen the gears, shot preening or something? i just need it to last a year till the haldex conversion and would hate to turn the boost down! [
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Thanks
SteveApril 7, 2016 at 8:57 pm #10414Chris S
ModeratorIf it is your transfer box then you need a VR6 Transfer box with 16/21 gear ratios, & not the 4 cylinder one with 20/21 ratios.
If it is the Differential then these are fitted in matched pairs (crown wheel & pinion)
April 8, 2016 at 7:44 am #10546Ssaunders
ParticipantHi Chris, thanks for this detail! I assumed that as it was a syncro mk2 donor and would need the mk2 transfer box but I see now that it must have been the mk3 gearbox as the VR bell housing is different. How would that effect the rear diff? Are there any codes I need to look for?
Where would I source one? The 4 cylinder ones are difficult enough!
I may just have to look at haldex instead, I have been looking at the phirm for the conversion but that’s booking for next year!
Thanks again.
SteveApril 8, 2016 at 11:16 am #10547Chris S
ModeratorThe rear diff has to have a suitable (matched ) ratio to the transfer box so it has 21/16 for the VR6 & 20/21 for the 4 cylinder models, however the 4 cylinder transfer box will bolt up directly on to the VR6 Gearbox, & of course then the VR6 transfer box will fit onto the 4 cylinder Gearbox
VR6 Codes are
Gearbox Code VR6 – CSR
Rear Diff Code VR6 – CSSGearboxes on eBay.de here
April 8, 2016 at 12:38 pm #10548Ssaunders
ParticipantHi Chris, my current hope is that when the conversion was done that they used the housing from a MK3 syncro and kept the 4 cylinder TB and rear diff.
i know i am taking the Mickey now but do you have the codes for the 4 cylinder TB and rear diff for comparison?
if your ever down Essex way look me up as i owe you a couple of beers!
cheers
steveApril 8, 2016 at 9:30 pm #10616Chris S
ModeratorThe 4 Cylinder Rear Diff code is
G2 Syncro ARR
G3 Syncro CBXTo the best of my recollection the transfer box does not have the code stamped on it.
http://www.vwsyncro.co.uk/data/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3002
April 11, 2016 at 6:00 pm #10908Ssaunders
ParticipantThanks again Chris. So my thinking is identify which rear diff I have and that will determine which transfer box I need. As its a 4 stud conversion I’m leaning towards the 4 cylinder and I did speak to someone who had a couple £175 each. I will hold off until I’m 100%.
Cheers
SteveApril 20, 2016 at 11:46 am #11262Ssaunders
ParticipantOK, quick update. It’s a blown diff that has also cracked the bell housing.

I have posted in wants for either bell housing or complete VR box.
Thanks for the help.
SteveApril 21, 2016 at 8:20 am #11263Chris S
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